voiceover:the wood whispereris brought to you by powermatic, the gold standard since 1921 and by rockler woodworking and hardware, create with confidence. (lively music) marc:if you can believe it, we are now hitting our third anniversary of the start of the wood whisperer. october 10th will mark an eventhree years since we began.
nicole:that's like 30years in the internet time. marc:yeah, the internettime was like 30 years. three years of making videos constantly nicole:yeah. marc:we thought it wouldbe fun to just kind of go back to episode one. see what the heck i wastalking about at the time. i don't know even know what i said. nicole:because it's so painful to go back.
marc:it's incrediblypainful for me to watch that but not only that, i'm curious what i said and what everybody whomakes their first podcast typically puts out sort ofa mission statement, right? i just want to review my mission statement and see if i held throughto some of that crap that came out of my mouth. nicole:well i think it's funny too because at the time thatyou put this video out,
i was travelling a lot. marc:right and i was very bored. (nicole & marc laughing) nicole:i come back froma trip and he's like, "look what i did." marc:look what i can do.nicole: i was like, cool. marc:yeah, and the woodwhisperer was born. let's take a look. people still ask me for this song
and they want me to go back to this. (nicole humming) it's not happening, it's retired. nicole:well, they cancatch it on their shows. marc:yeah, everybody seems to use that, a lot of people. nicole:hello. marc:welcome to the very first ... you're making fun of me already.
(nicole laughing) the guy is sexy, look at him. very first wood whisperer video podcast. nicole:do you still have that t-shirt? marc:i do somewhere i think. nicole:i wouldn't have given it away.marc: you notice, if you look very closelyon the bottom of the screen you'll see the top of a laptop and apparently why wouldn'ti have checked that.
nicole:it was your first episode. marc:well you'll also notice later when i got my lightunits, the light boxes. i wasn't as careful as i should have been about where those were. you'll see them on the side of the screen. i'm such a pro. i'm starting this podcastfor a number of reasons. the most obvious which is the fact that
there just aren't manyoptions out there anymore when it comes to woodworking education ... nicole:well that's not true anymore. marc:and entertainment. what about that? nicole:and entertainment. marc:that's an interestingstatement, right? nicole:yeah.marc: this was three years ago. nicole:yup.
marc:the best i could get ... well let me finish becausei think i talked about that. you could buy some overpriced videos, maybe take some woodworking classes if you're lucky to live near a good school but perhaps you can catch an episode of the new yankeeworkshop or even woodworks but clearly woodworkers are just not considered aprime demographic anymore.
the awesome thing about ... nicole:can we just gowatch the whole thing? marc:yeah, sure. that's interesting becauseif you look at things now, it is totally different. marc:absolutely different now.nicole: i love it. marc:we have just as an example. back when i did that, you do a search in itunes for woodworking
marc:and that was pretty much it. you do a search for woodworking now, there's about 27 entries in there. some of them are dead links or their podcast that have come and gone but there is still a substantial and growing list of podcasters. nicole:i think in the magazines,have gotten involved too. marc:that's a huge thing, yeah.
nicole:i mean at the time. marc:there wasn't really anything. i mean maybe a little bitof stuff here and there but it certainly was not apriority and now it clearly is. pop woodworking puts a bunchof videos out in the podcast, fine woodworking. they don't really do muchon their feed anymore in the podcast but they do alot of video on the website. marc:the landscape is completelydifferent than it was.
i mean just to name a few of the people who've been around for awhile and have of kind of really contributed to the community here and i'm just looking onour list of what we've got. this is just awesome. of course we got t-chisel's, his current show woodworkingwith tommy mcdonald. whatever version of hisshow that he happens to be doing right now,
he's been doing videoalmost as long as we have. modern wood shop, dave noftz over there has a great funny podcast. woodworkers resource, he doesn't do so much anymore but he did a lot in the beginning. nicole:a lot for kidslike it was neat to see. marc:right, yeah, he broughthis kids into it a lot. stu's shed, stu's been over there
down under doing his thing. the renaissance woodworker, shannon is doing a lot of video. he's at wia recently so he got us a lot offootage and fun stuff there. nicole:splintered board podcast. marc:splintered board, yeah. rick, he likes to do a lot of content nicole:well there's matt.
marc:of course, we can't forget matt. he's the woodworking pod father. there's a few on here thati haven't seen before. turning wood podcast, ihave to check that out. of course, handi's workshop. he doesn't do that much but that's handi from the chatroom. nicole:okay. marc:i don't think hedoes a whole lot of video.
what he does, he makes some good stuff. anyway point is and you also see a lotof companies in here that are doing woodworking stuff. the point is there'sjust a lot out there now. it's just a fantastic thing and it's so differentthan it was at the time. i love it. the thing about a podcast is the fact that
i don't have to worry aboutviewership or ratings. i don't have anyone to answerto, well except for maybe ... nicole:(laughing) me. marc:yeah. except for maybe my wife. voiceover:aha! nicole:when you did that, i was like number one, where didyou get that picture? marc:that was at the zoo. nicole:i hate that picture.
marc:like the san diego zoo. well you know what, from the beginning i think it was pretty clear that i was hoping touse you in the podcast either to make a joke orto just make it better and from day one i'vewanted to do something and that was just like, i just show this marc:that this isn't goingto be a serious podcast. nicole:his cousins were saying "nicole,"
"can you do this?" andi'm like "i'm working." marc:the girl's got thenerve to have a real job. nicole:yeah, imagine that. marc:i think that was kindof if you look at that, that was the seed of the formula that i was going to go for with this thing and just try to make itfunny and make it real because i think there's alot of husbands out there who like making fun of their wives.
nicole:just lucky we havea good sense [inaudible]. marc:whether the podcast isdownloaded by five people or 5,000 people, the show will go on. marc:at the time my idea ofa top end number was 5,000 and now we're pretty lucky now. nicole:we're very lucky, very. marc:within the firstweek of posting a video, it's typically downloadedat least 20,000 times. nicole:yeah and then we alsohave a number of sources,
i mean at this time you were just learning how to distribute your video. i think you were onlydistributing through blip tv. marc:right. nicole:since then we have used youtube. you have a channel there. marc:yeah. i post on youtube right away. nicole:you have it on [miveo],you have it everywhere. marc:it's a different way of thinking now.
nicole:it's everywhere. marc:it's getting thecontent out, it's on tv. marc:i have no idea becausewe can't really track exactly how many people see it but it's on public access television which were incredible thankful for because who the heck knowswho's going to see that stuff, it's crazy. nicole:very shortly itshould also be list on tivo.
marc:tivo and some cable thing ...nicole: yup. marc:that blip is doing for us. there's a lot of stuff going on that we have no control over. it just kind of happens. nicole:well the idea isjust to get it out there. marc:yeah, exactly. i have some really cool ideas planned for the podcast and the website.
i do. aside from the specifictechnique based lessons, i also plan on taking some shop tours and learning techniques fromother pros in the industry. well that's pretty cool. marc:i didn't realize isaid that, that early on but that it was somethingthat i always wanted to do is try to get out, try to get some stuff from being on the road and we actually do.
i even looked the otherday in the archive. marc:we have a lot of videos that we've done on the road. nicole:really? marc:you've been there, you should know. nicole:i've given upall my vacation for that on the road stuff. marc:that's true, exactly but like trips to when wewent to pop woodworking,
nicole:that's right. marc: fine woodworking. nicole:did we go to woodcraft? marc:we went to the local woodcraft. nicole:yeah, the local woodcraft. marc:yeah, i mean just the iwf show, awfs or afws or whatever,what that company is called. we've just done a lot on the road which is great for aperson who hates to travel. the website itself isgoing to feature articles,
tool reviews and lots of helpful links. marc:one last thing ...nicole: you got [inaudible] voice. marc:i like to mention is the overall tone of this podcast. the last thing i want to do is to have you sit througha boring monotone rehash. like this? (marc & nicole laughing) how ironic is that. of information you probably already know.
woodworking is fun, it's exciting and believe it or not it'spretty easy to make fun of. i mean the way we drool over tools and labor over these sharpening techniques and we cry about nothaving enough horsepower in our table saw but with all these fuzz we all still wind upmaking paper towel holders and toothpicks.
it was suppose to be the joke. (nicole laughing)it's not that funny. nicole:no, it was funny. i mean how do you make apaper towel holder though? marc:three pieces of wood and some glue. marc:doesn't really take very much. on all seriousness, i hope thatthis podcast will teach you, inspire you and mostimportantly entertain you. if it doesn't, just contact my wife
at nicolespag@gmail.com. nicole:you put my e-mail in there. marc:how many e-mails did you get that people were really writing you as if that was like this is theline to contact the show on? nicole:i don't remember. marc:i don't think people were used to. i mean this is the first episode. people were not exactly usedto a dry sense of humor.
nicole:right. marc:that i was beingsarcastic, i wasn't serious. i was basically saying if iscrew up, talk to my wife. nicole:i forgot about that. i think i got a couple. marc:that's funny, well onlyfive people watched that show. nicole:don't do that. marc:it is, that's funny. that's her current e-mail address too.
man, i'm terrible. nicole:terrible.marc: i'm terrible. stick around, we're goingto have a ton of videos on the website, lots oftool stuff to look at. nicole:how many videos do we have? it's been three years. i know we've just kind of celebrated our quote, unquote 100th episode. where's the cake?
marc:it's at the store. it's at [carmel]. nicole:technically i thinkthere's a 100 and ... marc:well in the beginning i didn't have my numbering system down. marc:multi part episodeswere considered episode one marc:we've got over 110, maybe 112 videos. nicole:that's not even countingthe guild videos, right? marc:not counting the guild videos.
not counting whisper minis. we're well over a 100 at this point but technically we officiallyhit the episode number 100 and our third year anniversaryat about the same time. nicole:yeah, pretty cool.marc: which is pretty cool. check back often and make sure you subscribe to therssp and see you soon. nicole:i can't believe you put the [video] address in there.
marc:was that www.feedmer.com slash. nicole:quick, write this down. marc:wow. questions or comments? i think i actually usedmy e-mail address here. marc:yeah, well there you go. nicole:look at the old field. marc:how i closed out the show. what's that saying?
nicole:on the last part hesays website development, me. for the longest time andprobably still to this day a lot of people thinkthat i manage the website. marc:yeah, i know. nicole:and i don't. marc:yeah, that didn't last that long. nicole:yes. marc:to get things going butpart of this we mentioned marc:i was too anxious.
i needed to get something going. i said, "look, i got to do this," and i sat down and learnhow to use wordpress and i started learning. nicole:i sent you somelinks and some tips. marc:basically she wasn'tgoing to be able to help me nicole:no. marc:if i wanted to dothis, i had to do it myself. that started my loveof copy, paste coding.
nicole:a lot of programming. marc:it's just copyingsomeone else's work. nicole:yeah, pretty much, it's a secret. marc:i guess you do enough of that. nicole:i learned that secret,i'm like "i can program." marc:you do enough of it, nicole:program. marc:pretty well so sincethen that the website has been all me and john funk.
marc:john helps design a lot.nicole: langley too. marc:langley helps us outwith the buttons and stuff. nicole:yeah, he's theone that really helped in the very, very beginning because for those of you thatbeen with us for a while. nicole:and i'm not good at photoshop. i'm a heck at photoshop,so a lot of that stuff. marc:you did some good stuff though. nicole: no. marc:you did some good things
but we've gone to friendsand people who we know who are better with it and now we work with somethat you may remember, john funk from the chats and stuff and he's just a phenomenalgraphics, artist, nicole:thank you. marc:programmer kind of guyand does some great work. all of the graphicupgrades that you're seeing on the site these daysare results of his work.
marc:from the extra lifeand instance podcast. he is a great artistand did some of the work for our new to woodworking website. nicole:i love seeing howthe site develops overtime. marc:yeah.nicole: because at new to woodworking, it was just a sectionof the wood whisperer. marc:a page, a dedicated page. nicole:it was a page in the wood whisperer nicole:for those that you don't know,
my background is kind ofend user based with software so i'm always trying to think in terms of what's the user experiencingwhen they go to these sites. the static site just isn't for us so we always have to keepdeveloping it overtime. doing things like that iswhat improves it i think over the long run. marc:it also serves to anger people which is always fun.
people do not always like change. nicole:that's true. marc:the bottom line is thoughi've got to keep the site being something that i want to play in. if i don't want to play in it, i can't expect other peopleto want to play in it. that's why i continually try to improve it and change things. one of those big changeswe may as well mention now
is the community website. we had a forum which i reluctantly started nicole:yeah, you didn't want to do that. marc:the bottom line is there'ssome really great forums. wood net, sawmill creek,familywoodworking.org, nicole:wwa.marc: wwa info exchange. there's some great forumswho have been out there plugging away, doing there thing for years
and then we come alongand start our forum. nicole:we needed a place ...marc: people wanted it. nicole:for people to interact. marc:yeah, to interact with each other. it was the logical thing to do at the time so we did it. since then it's become a headache and a lot of work so i decided, i really want to takethis to the next level.
let's start a community website which contains a forum andthat's what we have now. it's the wood whisperer community. you can go there. it's community.thewoodwhisperer.comand it's great. nicole:i love it. marc:you could jump in the chatroom, you can even do your ownblog post right there. nicole:i'm not a forum type person.
marc:yeah, well not anymore. we've sort of move beyond static forum. nicole:not even before,not even when it's popular and i know a lot of you are. i know a lot of you like to be bolt in. it was really cumbersomefor me to go through that. marc:it's a lot of work. nicole:for a really new user or especially someone
that's never really experienced forums, it's kind of a dauntingexperience to kind of find your way through thatand it's not obvious at all. marc:yeah.nicole: i really like the community. marc:you know what else is not obvious? nicole:what? marc:the behind the scenes crap. marc:whoever designed that menu, should be punched in the head.
i mean it's certainlycapable but it's like ... nicole:it would be allwonky for certain people and it was just ... marc:it's just not very user friendly. i mean you really got toknow how to manipulate it nicole:anyway, anyway. marc:the other thing i wanted to mention, marc:the guild is going very strong. i'm really happy with the direction
things are going there. the members are not trying to kill me and it seems that i mustbe doing something right. nicole:yeah.marc: that's a good thing. marc:if you want some information on that and really look at it as two things. it's a way to get discounts on stuff and it's a way to get moreout of the wood whisperer. nicole:yup, more videos.marc: we have more videos,
more access to live sessions. we have some great live interviews with other woodworkers recently. we had adam king, we've hadcharles neil on the show. we've had darrel piert on the show and we have kelly millerlined up for the next one. nicole:cool.marc: yeah, it's fantastic. it's a really greatinteractive environment and you may want to check it out.
nicole:just recently rockler came on board with the discounts. well rockler, eagle america,the woodwork store, laguna. nicole:the canadian lumber. marc:the canadian lumberplace and bell forest. nicole:bell forest. marc:would've shot myselfif i forgot their name. bell forest products isalso one of the companies that participate.
really good stuff, check it out. marc:bottom line is we just wanted to say. nicole:we had fun. marc:it's been a great three years. i can't believe it's been ... i'm like slowly watching my hair disappear of the top of my head fromone episode to the next but anyway enough about meand my diminishing looks. we just wanted to saythank you to everybody
for coming to the website,watching the videos and just helping us make this into what has really been a lifechanging thing for you and i, i think. we just would have neverexpected it to go this far and be this successful. nicole:yes, so thank you. marc:thank you and thank you. marc:because if it wasn't for you,
none of this would happen. i could tell you that for sure. nicole:if i didn't travelfor two months straight, he would have never gotten bored. marc:yeah, and if you didn't support us during the times when thiswasn't exactly bringing money in. we would have never been able to survive. nicole:well it takesa lot to make this run and we're all piece of it.
marc:pieces in the puzzle.nicole: yes. marc:thanks for watching everybody and we look forward toanother three, four, five or 20 years. nicole:yay! bye. (happy music)